Tuesday, 12 August 2014

FAA Restricts Airspace Over Ferguson, MO

quote [ The agency issued a Notice to Airmen that was restricting flights over the town near St. Louis, Mo. ?to provide a safe environment for law enforcement activities.?

The flight ban follows protest in Ferguson over the fatal shooting of an apparently unarmed black teenager, Michael Brown, 18, by a officer with the city?s police department. ]

I'm sure this is just one element in a flawless plan the police have to fix everything.

Also, the police decide it's too dangerous to release the name of the officer who shot Michael Brown.

Here's a very quick recap of events surrounding Ferguson:
http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion/national/south/2014/08/guide_to_developments_in_st_louis_police_shooting

Also, since I've seen a lot of "they f***ed the businesses in their own neighborhood" posts 'round the interwebs, it might be some small comfort that most Ferguson businesses are probably insured in case of riots. Not that events won't give business owners pause when considering rebuilding, of course:
http://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/news/2014/08/12/ferguson-crisis-most-business-insurance-covers.html
[SFW] [politics] [+6 WTF]
[by Dumbledorito@8:19pmGMT]

Comments

foobar said @ 9:46pm GMT on 12th Aug [Score:4 WTF]
Ferguson Police Fire Tear Gas Protesters with "Hands Up" in Their Own Backyard

Bruceski said @ 10:09pm GMT on 12th Aug
So the police fire a product called Hands Up at people who were protesting tear gas?
foobar said @ 10:16pm GMT on 12th Aug
Let's see how grammar you are when fired on tear gas with.
arrowhen said @ 12:58pm GMT on 14th Aug
I'll give you my Oxford comma when you pry it from my cold, dead, and correctly punctuated hands!
mechavolt said @ 10:09pm GMT on 12th Aug
Fuck the police.
robotroadkill said @ 12:00am GMT on 13th Aug [Score:1 Funny]
Fuck the polite.
maryyugo said @ 11:29pm GMT on 12th Aug
Fuck the police? Who? EVERY cop EVERYWHERE? The same cops who bring down murderers, kidnappers, rapists, organized criminals and bank robbers?

And based on what evidence? What investigation? Ever hear of due process? Innocent until proven guilty?

You sound like a member of a sharia court.
Naruki said @ 12:59am GMT on 13th Aug [Score:1 Underrated]
"Ever hear of due process?"

Ah, the irony.
bltrocker said @ 2:17pm GMT on 13th Aug [Score:1 Underrated]
Fuck the police and fuck the troops. I'll judge each member individually, but fuck them as institutions.
foobar said @ 11:43pm GMT on 12th Aug
What percentage would it take resigning over this would it take to get it addressed? 10%? Probably far less.

By wearing the uniform, they're endorsing this. So yes, fuck the police.
buzhidao said @ 10:26am GMT on 13th Aug
jesus christ they need to get some other peacekeeping body in there, this is all kinds of fucked up. it's got a very 'old south' vibe, i dont like it.
HoZay said @ 3:32am GMT on 13th Aug [Score:2]
This Is The Terrifying Result Of The Militarization Of Police

These Missouri cops don't look like cops, they look like an occupying army.
mechavolt said @ 3:25am GMT on 14th Aug [Score:2 Informative]
Anybody watch the livestreams tonight? Completely unprovoked attack by the police on protesters, chasing them into neighborhood side streets, blocking them in, demanding they disperse, then shooting at them when they are unable to comply. I'm glad these videos exist, because the cops are claiming they only started firing when protesters threw Molotov cocktails. No Molotov cocktails were actually thrown.
sanepride said @ 9:30pm GMT on 12th Aug [Score:1 Informative]
A lot of disturbing and fucked-up stuff going on here, but the FAA restriction isn't really that unusual. It's only up to 3000 ft, and likely just to allow for operation of police choppers. The FAA is mainly concerned with civil aviation safety, the idea is to prevent possible collisions with small aircraft.
It should be noted that the Justice Department is initiating a civil rights investigation, so the federal authorities may likely be the main instrument of justice here, since local law enforcement is being highly uncooperative to say the least.
HoZay said @ 2:48am GMT on 13th Aug
Keeps news choppers out.
Dumbledorito said @ 4:40am GMT on 13th Aug [Score:1 Informative]
They started giving military surplus to police dept's back in the 90's and they haven't stopped, resulting in more SWAT teams nationwide than ever.
sanepride said @ 2:11am GMT on 14th Aug [Score:1 Informative]
kylemcbitch said @ 2:40am GMT on 15th Aug [Score:1 Informative]
https://pad.riseup.net/p/BKHEb3flX588

Cops were terrible at covering their tracks. This took no hacking or illegal activity to find and collate, as they left up their linkedin pages and city council minutes. Through processes of elimination, the most likely shooters are Officer Matt Miller or Officer Joshua Mace, as they are in the right age range for 6 years of experience.

Too bad Anonymous has been failing to name any of the correct people so far, or I would be giving them this information to leak.
XregnaR said @ 8:36pm GMT on 12th Aug
What sort of precedence is there for this?
Dumbledorito said @ 8:45pm GMT on 12th Aug
What's creating a lot of unfortunate and ill-thought out comparisons is the Bundy Ranch. The FAA established a no-fly zone over the area, though I think that was because the Bundy-ites were posting aerial photos of the Bureau of Land Management local worksites and they feared for the safety of BLM employees. I tried to find details, but nearly all the results were for blogs that were predicting the Bundy Ranch would be the next Waco, Armageddon, and Second Civil War.
GordonGuano said @ 9:07pm GMT on 12th Aug
The latter half of Transmetropolitan, when the Smiler gets to work.
mechavolt said @ 9:08pm GMT on 12th Aug
Fuck the police.
maryyugo said @ 11:30pm GMT on 12th Aug
Boring. Can't even keep track of your previous post?

mechavolt said @ 12:35am GMT on 13th Aug [Score:1 Underrated]
Anything worth saying is worth saying more than once.

Fuck the police.

Yes, some cops bring down murderers, kidnappers, rapists, organized criminals and bank robbers. Other cops are murderers, kidnappers, rapists, organized criminals and bank robbers. If the first group of cops actually were doing their jobs, the second group would be in jail. Instead, they go on administrative leave while an "internal investigation" is conducted. Once the public attention dies down, they get their jobs back with no legal repercussions. In the cases where a cop is actually brought to trial, there is a huge bias in favor of finding them innocent, regardless of the evidence. This means that even your hero cops who are doing their jobs are still criminals, because they let their corrupt coworkers go free.

Furthermore, the police system in America currently has virtually zero oversight. Take the Ferguson incident. Who is responsible for keeping the riots under control? The very same people who sparked the riot. Who engage in spurious and uncalled for violence, again with no repercussions. Luckily, the FBI is stepping in for this case, but they don't do this normally.

Let's move on to racial discrimination. Look at drug use rates vs arrest rates by race. Look at violent crime rates vs arrests by race. Look at pretty much fucking anything vs arrest rates by race. Both the fucking police and the judicial system are complicit in this egregious violation of civil rights. While were on the topic of discrimination, go look at all those same stats by income. Now go look at rape reporting vs rape investigations. The police are a tool of oppression against minorities, women, and the poor.

So yes, fuck the police.
mechavolt said @ 12:41am GMT on 13th Aug
Forgot another point. Violent vs non-violent crime arrests. Police made more arrests for marijuana possession than for violent crime. Which also ties back to drug arrest discrepancies by race. Add to this their long history of violence against social deviance -- take a look at the Stonewall incident. The police do not have the people's safety in mind -- they're only looking to enforce their own social norms, which don't include anyone who isn't at least middle class, white, straight, and Christian.
sanepride said @ 1:07am GMT on 13th Aug
To be fair, these particular injustices are due as much if not more to an unjust legal system, draconian laws, and prosecutorial overreach than police abuse. The police in these cases are mostly 'only following orders' (though yes, some follow their orders with greater zeal when darker complexions are involved).
HoZay said @ 2:51am GMT on 13th Aug
It's a system, everyone plays a part, including voters who elect lawmakers and mayors who keep the cycle going.
steele said @ 10:18am GMT on 13th Aug
It's the Oval of Inequality, it's an Off-Center Wheel of Misfortune.
mechavolt said @ 8:32pm GMT on 14th Aug
Hey mary, where'd you go? I'd like to hear your response.
lilmookieesquire said @ 11:04pm GMT on 12th Aug
The funny part is that this totally isn't needed because all the new media choppers are busy flying over Robbin Williams estate.
kylemcbitch said @ 12:49am GMT on 13th Aug
Well here is my take:

The police shut down a protest before it had a chance to be peaceful, or violent. One can not have a peaceful protest if one can not EVEN protest.

They then denied access to the area all news media. They then closed the airspace (for low flying objects) which will keep out news choppers.

As it stands right now, there is a witness that says the police murdered his friend. No video evidence, and the police claim the victim attacked them trying to get their gun.

Regardless of Mike Brown's innocence this is the question people should be asking: Did the police shoot a surrendering suspect? Because both the victims friends and other witnesses claim he was on his knees, with his hands up. Regardless of the guilt or innocence of Mr. Brown, this question is vital.

Now, take this into account...

The police did not take statements from witnesses. We don't know how many people saw what. However, they have locked down the area, and have no media oversight. They have excuse to arrest anyone they like due to rioting. How can we be sure that potential witnesses aren't being bullied, arrested without cause, or even jailed?
foobar said @ 12:57am GMT on 13th Aug
Or shot and left somewhere out of the way.
Dumbledorito said @ 1:12am GMT on 13th Aug
Given the footage that's come out on social media so far, I'll be very interesting to see what comes out in the following weeks...
biblebeltdrunk said @ 9:57am GMT on 14th Aug
https://storify.com/AthertonKD/veterans-on-ferguson

various comments by veterans on the Ferguson police department.
biblebeltdrunk said @ 12:39pm GMT on 14th Aug
derp, this is in another thread already

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