Monday, 18 August 2014

Ferguson Police Have Long History of Racism, Abuse of Power, Not Giving Fucks.

quote [ Police in Ferguson, Missouri, once charged a man with destruction of property for bleeding on their uniforms while four of them allegedly beat him.
?After Mr. Davis was detained, did you have any blood on you?? asked Davis? lawyer, James Schottel.
?No, sir,? Beaird replied.
?And what do you allege that Mr. Davis did unlawfully in this one?? the lawyer asked.
?Transferred blood to my uniform while Davis was resisting,? the cop said.
?And didn?t I ask you earlier in this deposition if Mr. Davis got blood on your uniform??
?You did, sir.?
?And didn?t you respond no??
?Correct. I did.? ]
[SFW] [politics] [+10 WTF]
[by AssBastard@5:16amGMT]


bltrocker said @ 10:05pm GMT on 18th Aug [Score:4]
foobar said @ 8:31am GMT on 18th Aug [Score:2 Underrated]
AssBastard said @ 2:29pm GMT on 18th Aug
Ahh, a palate cleanser of kitten sorbet.
satanspenis666 said @ 6:00am GMT on 18th Aug
Oops.. Didn't mean to downmod. WTF+1
AssBastard said @ 6:01am GMT on 18th Aug
I will never forgive you.
AssBastard said @ 6:01am GMT on 18th Aug
Okay, I forgive you.
HoZay said @ 6:22am GMT on 18th Aug
Ferguson Police Have Long History of Racism, Abuse of Power, Not Giving Fucks.
mechavolt said @ 11:08am GMT on 18th Aug
Before a certain someone starts going off about how great the police are, remember this: This is not a Ferguson problem. This is a national problem. Police brutality and racism are endemic across the country.
AssBastard said @ 12:19pm GMT on 18th Aug
"The world didn't just get worse, your eyes just widened."
GordonGuano said @ 2:24pm GMT on 18th Aug
Counterpoint: police in Charlotte apparently did their job very well.

Black guy shoots two cops and a little girl in the process of trying to beat up his girlfriend, makes it to jail alive, and supposedly the cops didn't fire once. I can't say this is a super feel-good story, but it could have been a hell of a lot worse.
King Of The Hill said @ 7:06pm GMT on 18th Aug [Score:1 Informative]
He gave himself up after he was surrounded. The officers didn't have a shot. If they had, they would have discharged their weapons.

Yeah, this is feel good to some, but this asshole deserved to die given what he was doing.
mechavolt said @ 4:39pm GMT on 18th Aug
Kama-Kiri said @ 4:06pm GMT on 20th Aug [Score:-1 Overrated]
filtered comment under your threshold
maryyugo said @ 5:32pm GMT on 20th Aug [Score:-1 Overrated]
filtered comment under your threshold
mechavolt said @ 11:58am GMT on 18th Aug
Looks like the governor is sending in the National Guard. I wonder who they will decide to protect.
sanepride said @ 12:42pm GMT on 18th Aug [Score:1 Underrated]
A reasonable question on its face- but at what point do we say 'enough already' to what is likely a small minority of rioters and looters who are effectively hijacking the streets of Ferguson? It's quite possible that the vast majority of people there are ready for some peace and quiet. Hopefully they're the ones the National Guard will protect.
lilmookieesquire said @ 6:24pm GMT on 18th Aug
You disrespecting Mike Mike?
sanepride said @ 1:43pm GMT on 18th Aug
Also keep in mind that Gov. Nixon is at least trying to be one of the good guys here. He has unequivocally condemned the Ferguson PD, particularly their release of the alleged robbery video and their attempts to besmirch Michael Brown, and he's spoken out against the militarization of police in general.
AssBastard said @ 1:48pm GMT on 18th Aug
I think that the curfew that he signed into effect had the opposite effect of what he was hoping for. It gave the Missouri Highway Patrol (the new cops) a reason to tear gas and shoot people up with rubber bullets. There are some looters, but they're almost without question from East St. Louis, not Ferguson, and some are young white anarchists that are just there to start shit. The citizens of Ferguson are the ones attempting to stop them and protect businesses.

It's really revealing to follow the reporters and press on twitter. It's truly a different world from what the CNNs are reporting, or the FOX newses aren't. I could list a few tweety accounts to follow if anyone's interested.
sanepride said @ 2:10pm GMT on 18th Aug
So the question is, how do you deal with the asshole looters? I'm not saying Gov. Nixon's tactics are correct or effective, but what are his choices in the face of a core of people determined to be jerks?
AssBastard said @ 2:25pm GMT on 18th Aug
The police arrested about 7 of them, and they generally number between 10 and 15, according to the locals and the trustworthy journalists (oxymoron, I know) on the ground. Tear gas, smoke bombs, and rubber bullets aren't the answer.
sanepride said @ 4:09pm GMT on 18th Aug
So by that math, the total number of looters is now 3-7? Seems like they shouldn't present much of a challenge.
AssBastard said @ 4:39pm GMT on 18th Aug
Should have specified, 2 nights ago the cops arrested about 7. The eyes on the ground said there were about 10-15 troublemakers that night. More probably came down from E. St. Louis last night since the pickins were said to be easy. The cops said the reason they started 2 hours before curfew with the smoke bombs, tear gas, and rubber bullets, was because the command center was attacked. Reporters confirmed that it wasn't.
GordonGuano said @ 2:20pm GMT on 18th Aug
The young white anarchists are scavengers. Get with the program, man!
maryyugo said @ 4:19pm GMT on 19th Aug
"Authorities have said that a struggle ensued after Wilson and Brown crossed paths at 12:01 p.m. August 9, according to the AP. But Dorian Johnson, who was reportedly with Brown at the time of the shooting, has said that Brown had his hands raised in the air when he was fired upon. "
Really? How do you get shot four times in the arm when your hands are "raised in the air"? Was the officer that bad a shot? Was he shooting into the air? Or maybe is Dorian Johnson a rank liar?
XregnaR said @ 4:42pm GMT on 19th Aug
The "independent" medical examiner said the wounds were consistent with both possibilities. The shot to the top of the head should be the focus, not the arms.

Most cops are taught the "wall of lead" principle. That is when things go pear shaped, you unload as much and as quickly as possible without losing complete control of the firearm.

All of this is irrelevant at this point. The police response after the fact is what is most disturbing about this whole situation.
maryyugo said @ 6:11pm GMT on 19th Aug
Really? The police response to rioting and looting disturbs you? Rather than the rioting and looting? What would you have them do? Bring the little dears some flowers?

As for what the wounds are consistent with, does anyone have Baden's actual statement? He's usually a pretty reasonable guy and he's seen a lot of shooting victims.

Dumbledorito said @ 7:26pm GMT on 19th Aug
I don't think anyone is questioning that rioting and looting are things we don't want police to put a stop to.

It's the harassment, intimidation, and arrest of media, the indiscriminate use of tear gas against protesters that haven't rioted, pointing loaded weapons at them, etc.

Perhaps I missed a key bit of footage, but what did the presence of an MRAP do to foster a positive outcome?
Dumbledorito said @ 7:23pm GMT on 19th Aug
Re: The "Wall of Lead."

Hold on. King of the Hill said that wasn't what cops are trained to do. Now you and him have to go fight or something.
dolemite said @ 12:07am GMT on 20th Aug
Maybe Brown had his hands in the air "like he just don't care". Maybe that's why the officer had to shoot him.

It's certainly possible that Dorian Johnson IS a rank liar. At the very least he seems very disrespectful and rude to the officer who shot his friend 6 times. And he's probably uppity too.
maryyugo said @ 6:37pm GMT on 20th Aug
If his hands were in the air, why were four of six shots through the arm. You think the officer set his gun sights a bit high perhaps? Perhaps the officer was on stilts? I'd like to hear your brilliant theory about these facts.
dolemite said @ 3:00pm GMT on 21st Aug
Maybe the officer's hands were in the air too. Maybe he just don't care either. I'm surprised I have to spell these things out for you.

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