Thursday, 26 October 2023

Lewiston, Maine mass shooting: At least 22 dead and 20 injured. Gunman still at large

quote [ At least 22 people are dead and 30 more are wounded following a mass shooting event at two locations in Lewiston, Maine, on Wednesday night. ]

This cracked off last night, about 15 mins from where i lived last year.

Gunman is still at large. None of my friends there are going to work today
[SFW] [dystopian violence] [+2]
[by rylex@5:20pmGMT]


mechanical contrivance said @ 6:43pm GMT on 26th Oct [Score:1 Insightful]
Letting insane people own guns has never been a problem before. Why would it be a problem now?
rylex said @ 6:53pm GMT on 26th Oct
because now we have wifi signals that are giving them instructions
gendo666 said @ 7:10pm GMT on 28th Oct [Score:1 Informative]
I was watching the news up here in Canada and heard some color commentary on the shooting.
It's suspected now that mental illness *might* have been a contributing factor in having a man shoot up and kill many people.
The fact that he was hearing voices on his new hearing aids telling him to kill people obviously was not a clue.
Just because there appears to be a mental health nexus to this scenario, the vast majority of people with mental health diagnosis will never hurt anybody,”
is a great quote I read.

And you know, I'm sure that's true but with someone with violent thoughts maybe that's going to be different.
(although the same person also said. "As for why Card chose his targets, Sauschuck said it was likely due to paranoia, that he thought people were talking about him." )
So why do you let the mentally ill keep guns?
- Especially a man who probably has a lot of firearms and the knowledge to use them.
So I have to ask
Why the fuck was someone (someone who voluntarily sought help) still in possession of their firearms?
Sure mass shootings take place in Canada but you guys in the U.S.
you don't want to deprive someone of their guns - even when you know they could have issues.

another great quote " Maine Gov. Janet Mills announced Card had been found dead at a Friday night news conference. Then, she called for the healing process to begin.

“Like many people I’m breathing a sigh of relief tonight knowing that Robert Card is no longer a threat to anyone,” Mills said. "

Maybe you wouldn't have to worry about that (as much.. as nothing is perfect) if you had better firearm regulations and also regulations regarding mental illness and firearm ownership.
Oh well, "thoughts and prayers."
and by that - keep digging into the denial you have problems.
- gotta maintain "Freedom" right?
rylex said @ 2:00am GMT on 29th Oct
it's because in the US we have a constitutional freedom granting everyone the right to firearms. and the wording is broad, indicating that no law shall be made to prevent this.

it's difficult for me to want to give up a freedom I know we might need.

also should mention, im a felon, so im weirdly prevented from firearm ownership

mechanical contrivance said @ 2:14am GMT on 29th Oct [Score:2]
If felons aren't allowed to own guns, that means limitations on the 2nd amendment are permissible. That means we could have limitations for people with certain mental health conditions, such as hearing voices, paranoia, and violent tendencies. It might cut down on mass shootings, even if just a little.

Of course, the NRA would never allow such limitations to be put in place.
rylex said @ 5:15am GMT on 29th Oct
you know as well as i do that federal felon firearms ban is only good as long as we have judges willing to interpret it as being constitutional.

and personally, even before i got my felony, I felt it to be a clear violation of the 2nd amendment
gendo666 said @ 5:12am GMT on 29th Oct
I think Americans (more than Canadians) have their "Freedom" indoctrinated into them.
Westward expansion (although it doesn't exist ) and the "Go West young man" ideology as well as the idea that "some nations are free but AMERICA is the free-est." have been drummed into
Americans from birth.
The Pledge of Allegiance is just as much a brainwashing (sorry, social conditioning) practice as
daily Calisthenics with Chinese patriotic slogans playing in the background.
Americans are very much the result of a bunch of intolerant assholes being thrown out of their
home country. - or seen another way Leaving. because they don't agree with the views of anyone else.
These guys made Oliver Cromwell look like a wife-swapping drug-smoking hedonist.
and the whole "Separation of Church and State" is just a joke - from the 10 commandments in courthouses to the Lord's Prayer in some schools.
The constitution is flawed (in at least one way) and the founding fathers never dreamed that people would use it to be intolerant. (we all are aware of the gap between a modern firearm and one from the time when they gave "the right to arms" )
I admit through association that my country has done okay.
I admit I have a bias though and Canada does often benefit from "Our American Cousins"
Heck, I'm still waiting to see evidence and a resolution to Canada's government calling India murderers.

gendo666 said @ 7:12pm GMT on 28th Oct
Also, all these fucking NRA members justify assault rifles for "home defense"
if "the World Government" wants you dead a brick of C4 and a Radio Shack drone will kill you just as dead and far safer for the S.W.A.T. team.
mechanical contrivance said @ 2:18am GMT on 29th Oct
That's the thing the paranoid gun hoarders don't understand. If the government wants you dead, they can kill you no matter how many machine guns you own. They don't even have to put their own men in harm's way to do it.
rylex said @ 5:18am GMT on 29th Oct
my 2A friends dont jistify their gun ownership that way. they all believe they need the guns to be ready to fight the US government in the very near future (within 10 years they anticipate)
gendo666 said @ 10:31am GMT on 2nd Nov
Again. AP drones.
or esplosive ones.
fly a claymore up to your house. look in the window (like anyone would care.
by then) anyone in charge of the "pilot" has keyed the arm signal
and the monkey pushes the button.
"Rebels" huner in a bunker.
don't blow it up.
Pave it.

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