Friday, 6 September 2019

A Decade of Music Is Lost on Your iPod. These Are The Deleted Years. Now Let Us Praise Them.

quote [ If you were an early adopter of Apple Music Store, as I was, everything you bought from 2003 to 2009 is stuck on a dusty iPod for which a charger can no longer be found, or on a MacBook that’s three MacBooks ago. Whether you bought that whole first Kaiser Chiefs album or just plunked down the 99 cents for “I Predict A Riot,” you don’t have it anymore. It simply does not exist for you, and it didn’t even leave behind a record sleeve to let you know it ever did. Now the era is over, and only a handful of neglected Maxell compact discs reminds me that I used to be really into The Pipettes. ]

I still buy CDs and own a Zune.
[SFW] [music] [+5 Insightful]
[by snowfox@8:43pmGMT]


Menchi said @ 11:22pm GMT on 6th Sep [Score:1 Underrated]
Between this article and the author's "12 Lost Classics from The Deleted Years of Music" companion piece, I'm convinced that I didn't listen to a single song made in these years, because I don't recognize any of it whatsoever.
damnit said @ 8:03am GMT on 7th Sep
The deleted years are mainly songs that got famous because of TRL or MTV in general at their peak. But it's not MTV's job anymore. The Internet does it and people release their songs on Soundcloud and develop a loyal following that transcends to the mainstream (Billie Eilish, Lizzo, Bieber, Lil Naz X, etc.)
snowfox said @ 2:00am GMT on 8th Sep [Score:1 Insightful]
Soundcloud? Man, I get so much of my new music from YouTube. I start on songs I want to hear and it plays songs that it thinks are related or that its paid to think are related. That's more or less how I discover new bands now.

Also, I love animated music videos and original fan songs.
damnit said @ 2:05am GMT on 8th Sep
I shouldn't have said only Soundcloud. But Billie Eilish did got famous when she and her brother uploaded "Ocean Eyes" on Soundcloud. From there, they released the music video the following year on YouTube. After that, it's been mostly her singles released on streaming platforms and music videos on YouTube.
snowfox said @ 2:37am GMT on 8th Sep [Score:2]
I have a cultural hypothesis. Music videos disappeared with the forgotten years and the fall of MTV. Then they came back hard. The first corresponding event I can find is the rise of music on YouTube. There's a decade or so with almost no music videos, all the songs just have the album cover, then the music videos returned and their quality really jumped.

The second corresponding event is the rise of K-Pop, which tends to have highly choreographed and well-produced music videos, including behind the scenes vids of dance practice. There were some K-Pop bands that were supposed to make it big but just didn't quite... they were before YouTube. Equivalent bands getting famous now are selling out world tours because fans are seeing them on YouTube.

Video killed the radio star. Streaming killed the video star. With YouTube the video, radio, and streaming star all became the same person o_o
rndmnmbr said @ 9:34am GMT on 7th Sep [Score:1 Underrated]
I have acquired only the most questionable quality music from the shadiest pirate sites, and funny enough, it all still plays just fine on whatever I choose to play it.
mechanical contrivance said @ 8:59pm GMT on 6th Sep
I buy cds, but I don't own a Zune.
5th Earth said @ 10:27pm GMT on 6th Sep
This is why I buy physical media.
spaceloaf said[1] @ 12:37am GMT on 7th Sep
I buy CDs to support artists I like, but honestly I haven't actually played a CD for many years now. I'm fully digital when it comes to playing music.

TBF, its a different time period now than what the article is referring to since digital tracks are ubquitious, but I still have all my MP3s from back in the iPod days. I guess that's the advantage of not using itunes for music.
snowfox said @ 1:19am GMT on 7th Sep [Score:2]
I don't play the CDs but I rip them at the quality I want and I take the CDs to concerts to get the cases signed. I love digital media but I know when the licensing deal expires, it doesn't matter I paid full price. They remove it from the library.

I need to figure out how to rip videos from Amazon before I lose movies I paid full price to "buy" but don't truly own a copy of.
TM said[1] @ 1:13am GMT on 9th Sep
This. Especially the cautionary note about the expiration of licensing agreements. I won't claim the CD is magical, but it's a physical artifact that I can own, sell, rip and hide if necessary.
mechanical contrivance said @ 1:52pm GMT on 9th Sep
Just do the same thing with movies that you do with music. Buy a disc and rip it. If you find ripping blu-ray discs too difficult, download the movie from bittorrent.
snowfox said @ 6:50pm GMT on 9th Sep
I don't just download things I didn't pay for because of my line of work. Someone has to pay for the free-riders; I am one of those people who pay to keep the arts afloat while others take them for granted and refuse to pay for what they use. Do you enjoy HBO? I'm one of the people actually paying for it, and if none of me existed, neither would HBO. Making your entertainment is a job and a business, if it doesn't make money, the business goes under and we lose our jobs.

However, making a copy of something I bought rights to is illegal but hardly unethical or immoral. If I ever had to go to court, I'd call it a backup copy. That's where I draw my line.

Most of the stuff I get either doesn't come on disc, or that BluRay's security features mean my only BluRay player cannot play it. I own a BluRay of The Lion King. I can't play it though.
mechanical contrivance said @ 6:58pm GMT on 9th Sep
You can both pay for a movie and download a copy illegally. That way, you've paid for it and you get the convenience of being able to watch it on whatever device you want. Since you have a legally purchased copy of The Lion King, you should have no problem with downloading a copy that will actually work.

I only suggested downloading movies from bittorrent because ripping movies is considerably more complicated than ripping music.
SnappyNipples said @ 2:54am GMT on 7th Sep
I don't use itunes or any other you must use our software to play your purchase systems...I still have all my music in possession be it digital or hard copy.
Bruceski said @ 4:03am GMT on 7th Sep
I still have my ipod, charging and USB-connection cables. Heck, I've even still got the dongle that lets me play it over a radio frequency. Just tried to boot it up and got the sad ipod icon. We'll see if letting it charge helps.

If not I could swear I found my old music folder going through old hard drives. I wonder if I saved it somewhere...
Bruceski said @ 4:42am GMT on 7th Sep [Score:1 Underrated]
It works! Man, some things I'd completely forgotten about on here.
Bruceski said @ 4:50am GMT on 7th Sep
Yeah this is some good shit. iTunes is being weird and laggy trying to listen to the stuff, so I think I'll pull it all onto my PC (only half a gig or so) and spend the weekend renaming the files to their proper stuff instead of the iPod's encrypted mess.
snowfox said @ 1:59am GMT on 8th Sep
The radio dongle and international flights are the reason I own a Zune. There are charge ports on planes now but for a long time it was a choice between being able to make calls when I landed or having music with a phone. The Zune could last from L.A. to Hong Kong. It also had a radio dongle for all my old cars. I am still not modern enough to have built-in blutooth or a USB port.

I don't think I ever want to own a car with WiFi or, for instance, brakes that are controlled by a chip rather than analog by the pedal. The stuff hackers can do to non-analog systems on WiFi-enabled cars is just terrifying. So there may be a coming wall where I will never own a car past a certain year.
Bruceski said @ 11:23pm GMT on 8th Sep
My car *has* bluetooth, and probably USB somewhere, but I haven't bothered figuring it out. I have plenty of CDs and keep an eclectic collection in that storage spot between the seats, whatever it's called.

Most of the time I just prefer the radio, though. I enjoy the discovery factor of music, where a song comes on that you haven't heard in ten years but love. I've got one station for where I live, one for where my parents live, and the CDs are for the mountains in between.
EvilNinjaX24 said @ 8:23pm GMT on 7th Sep
Between '96 and '04, I bought nearly 550 CDs. Financial circumstances changed, and my CD budget went out the window. Around the same time, I stopped listening to the radio. My knowledge of music past '04 is anemic, aside from the rare artist (do groups still exist that aren't random boy/girl groups/bands?) that transcended beyond music in some way.

I've since lost my CDs (and let's not talk about the vinyl), but I currently have 8,714 mp3s and FLACs sitting in my music folder (and uploaded to Google Play for backup), with EASILY another 200+ elsewhere that I have to sift through. These "lost years" and afterward are under-represented, but I'm perfectly fine with that.
Ussmak said @ 4:52pm GMT on 8th Sep
And nothing of value was lost.
Paracetamol said @ 2:44pm GMT on 25th Sep
+1 Unoriginal

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